In September Vols had <1% chance to make bowl

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  1. Orange_N_White

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    Pretty good run

    beat Vandy and we are 5-3 in conference and 7-5 overall

    no excuse for dropping first 2 but that’s been a hell of a turnaround
     
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    Agree, UT is showing signs of life.
     
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  3. ZosoDawg

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    concur. Fulmer should go ahead and give Pruitt a 7 year, 49 million contract extension
     
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  4. dhetiger

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    With a 75% buyout thingy attached.
     
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  5. BamaFan1137

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    Well played. Agree we would need to see this trajectory last over time but good news in Knoxville in the fall has been pretty rare lately. This qualifies as good news imo.

    Edit....the OOC head scratchers have to stop, starting now.
     
  6. HONKifUvCOACHED4BAMA

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    Bullschit. Don’t patronize him. It’s sad and pathetic that the Vol fans have become THIS complacent with mediocrity.
     
  7. BamaFan1137

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    Ummmm... do you have a dog in this fight?
     
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  8. Bill_D

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    LOL. Do you?
     
  9. dhetiger

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    :confused:
     
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  10. Orange_N_White

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    We both know Chaney is good and only going to get better
     
  11. Orange_N_White

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    scoreboard
     
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    Saw recently some pûssy lib wrote an article bitching about Pruitt grabbing his players’ jerseys when he’s mad. Lol.
     
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    Not like you do.
     
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  14. Pops Masterson

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    Lol
     
  15. Orange_N_White

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    it’s amazing that is an issue
     
  16. Bill_D

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    I don’t care about TN at all. They are rather meaningless to me. On the other hand I can see the reason for you propping them up. You do have a dog in the hunt. and I do mean dog.
     
  17. BKHusky

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    Funny how both UTs are 6-5 now
     
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    I agree with that. I honestly believe that is why Fromm has struggled this year as much as he has.
     
  19. Orange_N_White

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    he’s a good coach and I talked to him many times at a bar here in Bearden before he left . Pretty good guy

    he is morbidly obese which is scary
     
  20. Orange_N_White

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    it’s more I’ve been mean to you by calling out your bs...therefore the Tennessee jab

    I contribute it to your insecurities
     
  21. Pops Masterson

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    He is disgusting. Reminds me of Charlie Weis.
     
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    *If Charlie Weiss could coach
     
  23. Bill_D

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    So? GA and AL are both 10-1.

    So numbers man how about this? After this weekend the top 4 are still LSU, OSU, Clemson and GA. AL is #5 and Utah is #6.

    So LSU beats GA next week and AL sits home on their ass. Does this mean GA is now behind AL because GA played a game while AL does nothing to prove it should move up?

    If Utah wins the PAC-12 it will be 12-1 and a Conference Champion. They have done something to improve their status.

    So what team should be in the final 4? Is GA who played a game they were expected to lose but was rated higher at #4 before the conference championship game? Or Utah who played a game and increased its merit? Or AL who has done nothing?
     
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  24. Pops Masterson

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    You said Texas was one of the best teams in the nation after LSU’s “huge win” over them. Turns out, LSU scheduling Texas wasn’t such a big game after all. They are on the same level as Tennessee.
     
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    Yep, he is a chili dog away from a massive heart attack.
     
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  26. BKHusky

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    Not sure what your post has to do with mine that you quoted, but I’ll answer the question. If Utah wins out, they’ll jump Bama. Whether or not they should is debatable, but they’ll get the #4 seed if they win their next two games, provided UGA doesn’t upset LSU.
     
  27. BamaFan1137

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    LOL...yea, you have no dog in the fight crying about UT. You can lie to yourself if you like but I'm not a fan of you lying to me.

    Fact...UT is not a great team.

    Fact...UT is better this year than last.
     
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    So winning the P12 is just as difficult as winning the SEC or B1G? Those are equal accomplishments IYO?

    How many people do you think would pick Utah over Bama?

    Proving that you can win a shitty conference like the P12 is an accomplishment...I'm just not sure it's all that you're making it out to be.

    Furthermore, Oklahoma will likely win the B12 with 1 loss as well. In your scenario, they don't make it into the playoffs. Why Utah and not Oklahoma?

    I fully understand your position. I wouldn't want Bama in either if I were you.
     
  29. Bill_D

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    Well, awhile back in a post you said you were a numbers man. Just checking you out. That was about numbers. But what made GA worse and not #4 if they were truly #4 before they played LSU?
     
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    It’s almost like he spent the summer with Mahlzoom.
     
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  31. BKHusky

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    That's how polls generally work. You lose and you move down. That's not really a "numbers" thing, as you can't quantify it since it is a subjective process.
     
  32. Bill_D

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    I don’t care if Bama gets in. But like I said the other day if Bama should have a vested right to be in every year why play their schedule? Tua wouldn’t have been injured twice.

    But that’s not what I want here. What I want is if GA is #4 at the end of the regular season what has AL done to prove they are #4 if GA loses to LSU? What has GA done to say they are not still #4? Please give me some legitimate reasons.

    Before when AL moved into #4 there were good reasons. I even thought there were and pulled for them. What are the reasons this year?
     
  33. Bill_D

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    But sitting on their ass when GA loses to a higher ranked team not a reason for AL to move up.

    You previously ask me what my post had to do with your post. Why did you bring the other UT into my post when the subject was U of TN? You can do it and I can’t?
     
  34. BamaFan1137

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    Sure you don't Bill.

    The only thing Bama has done to not be in the top 4 is lose to LSU. If UGA were to lose to LSU they would have matched that achievement and raised us a South Carolina, haha.

    I don't know if Bama belongs in the playoffs either. Maybe this weekend will shed light on that subject. However, putting Utah in because they won a horrible P12 or even Oklahoma, who I believe is better than Utah, for winning a bad B12 conference is silly.

    Not all conferences are created equal, clearly.

    And if strength of schedule, especially out of conference, is important to you...and you've said it is, how do you put Utah in? Their SOS is much worse than ours. As is their loss.
     
  35. Pops Masterson

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    I’m not claiming bammer could beat Georgia like you claimed Texas was a top 5 team, but Georgia lost to South Carolina. That is a shit loss, and that’s what people look at.

    If we beat auburn convincingly, and I’m not sure we will, we will be in... and you remember the last time you were tootin LSU’s horn before that rematch lol. We all remember.
     
  36. BKHusky

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    You quoted a post then asked something that had nothing to do with what you quoted, that was why I said I wasn't sure what it had to do with the post. Mine was at least somewhat related to the subject. You're free to post whatever you want though, I'm not trying to tell you what you should or shouldn't post. I still responded to your post in a friendly manner.

    Whether or not you agree with it, if UGA loses to LSU, they'll fall behind Alabama (assuming Alabama beats AU). I get your point, and have made similar arguments to yours before. UGA still has a terrible loss on the resume, which they can't overcome unless they beat LSU. Another possibility is that Bama jumps UGA if they win at Auburn this week, which would have Bama ahead of UGA before the SECCG. I don't know how much spacing there is between the two teams in the committee's eyes.

    An interesting scenario would be if all the following happens. Then what would the committee do? Obviously a little farfetched, but would be interesting to see.

    Alabama beats Auburn
    Oklahoma State beats Oklahoma
    Oklahoma beats Baylor
    Oregon beats Utah
    Virginia Tech/Virginia beats Clemson
    Georgia beats LSU
     
  37. BamaFan1137

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    Being a 2 loss team, who doesn't appear to be playing at a very high level (at not on O) would probably play a role.

    Whether it works to Bama's advantage or not, they should put in who they believe are the 4 best teams, period. If that's UGA, so be it. Everything else is political bullshit.
     
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    Not sure UT is much better. More a case where other SEC teams got worse:

    -UK lost all their QBs
    -Vandy has crawled into the ditch of putridness and started digging
    -Mizzou lost their solid QB from last year and some line depth
    -Missy State is reverting back to pre-Mullen form under Morehead
    - and everyone has a chance against a team coached by Muschimp

    Porkchop getting UT back to a bowl is important for them and gives him another 15 practices to work em, but they’ve a long way to go for real betterment
     
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    Well, the train left the tracks. Odub, congrats on the turnaround. Your bounce back has had a profound effect on the PAC12 race.
     
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    Disagree. UT has played hungrier since midseason. They have had talent but not drive. That was even true early this season.

    If they finish this season the right way and start the next one playing like they are right now, UT will be ok. UT was awful the last several years so becoming middling is improvement.
     

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